A group voyeur turned group member

[onegalacticwino]

I have visited PMDAWN.NET for years now, but have only posted once or so. Therefore since I'm still pretty much a visitor (or voyeur really), I thought I would quickly introduce myself:

* I'm 28, live in CT, and I've been a PM Dawn fan for 11 years.

* I play and write songs on acoustic guitar, and these guys are another inspiration for me in this area.

* My favorite PM Dawn song (or any song for that matter) is definitely "Apathy...Superstar?" -- I can't say enough about this song. Melody, lyrics, message (as I understand it), piano, energy, vocal delivery! Never tire of it. Sincerely, thank you Be for writing that masterpiece!!!

* My favorite PM Dawn moment was coming home in early Jan several years ago to a message on my phone from Be apologizing for FUC#KED Music's delay. Even though mine never came (or was lost in the mail or something), it never mattered because of the awesome message (and I have a friend who has it, too, so I can borrow it). It's all good!

Look forward to getting to know you all!

[Poetdude]

Welcome...Glad to have you aboard. I look forward to getting to know you as well! :D

[syxxpm]

welcome aboard :)

[justafan]

Rock on brother!!! You appear to be the sort of person that will fit right in around here!!

Keep posting, then we'll let you in(likely)!!

[Cozmo D]

Welcome in Wino, great to have you aboard.

Nice nick too! :)

[Chief]

welcome man...watch out for chief

[Elizabeth]

Hi Wino!

Good song choice. I love 'Apathy'.

Good to have you around! Good story, too. Be's a nice guy. He often goes out of his way for people, from what I can tell. :)

love
Elizabeth

[Hero1]

nice to see you step up n post welcome

[SweetNsoFLyy]

Hey...welcome aboard!!! :D

peace,
3cookies

[Deity]

Welcome to the Forum, Onegalacticwino! Make yourself comfortable, buckle up and keep your arms inside the ride at all times! :lol:

[Poetdude]

LOL...Deity is right, One...It can be a little bumpy here sometimes, but I can assure you that it is NEVER boring! But seriously....I have made many great friends here among all of these wonderful poeple. When you get to know everyone, I'm sure you will come to like it here as much as I have!

Peace,
Poetdude

[Poetdude]

GREAT favorite song, by the way....it is one of mine too....but like most of us here, I like so many PM Dawn songs that it is hard to pick just 1 favorite! :D

[onegalacticwino]

Thanks for the warm reception! Yes, I see it is bumpy but entertaining here. Like I said, I have followed it for some time -- maybe 4 years or so, so I feel like I already know some of you. And to occasionally hear (or rather see) emails, ideas, arguments, thoughts from one of my major artisitc influences -- that's incredible.

Look forward to further posts!

[Poetdude]

Hi, again Wino:

I noticed in your first post that you write songs. I also play guitar and write my own songs. I was wondering what type of music your songs are?? I know you said you write on accoustic guitar, but what style? Like Blues or pop or Jazz or what?

I have a very broad taste in music and love many different styles, so my music contains elements of all the styles that I love the most. I have some accoustic music, some blues, some rock...even a little classical influence at times. I have a small home studio in my house, basically consisting of a tascam 788 portastudio, (Which I just recently bought), and a Roland Dr. Rhythm 660 Drum Machine...and I play everything on my songs except for lead guitar solos, and vocals.

Before I bought the new recorder, I used an old Fostex 4-track machine. It has been kind of weird learning to use the new machine cause I was so used to my old one...

But I have been writing for years, and have tons of home made demos. I find that writing music comes a bit easier than lyrics. I DO write lyrics but it is more of a challenge for me...the musical parts seem to come more naturally to me.

That has always seemed strange to me, since I am also a poet. I have even recently self-published a book of my work, called REFLECTIONS OF THE SOUL. But somehow my style of poetry writing does not seem to work well when I try to set it to music.

Anyway, whenever I meet someone else that writes songs too...I always enjoy discussing their work with them. So I just figured I'd ask what kind of stuff you do and a little about how you approach the creative process. I find this kind of stuff interesting, and I was just a little curious.

I look forward to talking with you about this!

Peace,
Poetdude

[Cozmo D]

Dammmm...you have a 660? How old are you Poetdude?

[Poetdude]

Hey Coz.

I am 34, and yeah...I've had the 660 since about '96 or '97 I think it was...(Although my memory is kinda fuzzy here). I have had it for years. Bought it off a friend since he had owned it for over a year, and never USED it once! I figured since he never used it, then he didn't need to own the damn thing! LOLOLOL It was still sealed in the box when I got it.

Peace,
Poetdude

[Cozmo D]

Damm...I think they stopped makin them things in like '85! :lol:

[onegalacticwino]

I have the same dilemma with lyrics, PD. I am prolific writing lyrics without music; writing melodies and songs sans lyrics is the easiest and my favorite part; BUT writing the two together, or marrying a lyric and song is the most challenging part for me. I write on my acoustic guitar, and am going to splurge for a nice Yamaha keyboard in the next few weeks, too. Perhaps adding to my instrument arsenal will increase my creativity.

Currently, I sometimes use my laptop to record ... and my new toy, the Tascam Pocketstufio 5:



I often carry and read creative-genre books, such as "The Creative Habit," "Nine Muses," or "Poemcrazy" to remind me to find any cracks in my work day and family night to create, even if for 15 minutes a day. Last year we had a son, so my output was at an alltime low -- but I'm learning how to juggle everything now -- including songwriting.

Look forward to sharing ideas and songs with you -- keep it up.

Wonder how Be writes? Journal, computer? Night, morning? Home, outside? I love seeing how some of the best write ... and on what. The best part of the music museum in Seattle was seeing Jimi's lyrics scribbled on hotel stationary or envelopes.

[Poetdude]

Could have been longer. coz...as I said my memory is fuzzy about exactly when I got it...just know I've had the thing for years! Also, I don't think it was an original model...but maybe one of the later models made....did they ever do a re-issued or updated model on the 660?

Peace,
Poetdude

[LumtheMad]

Also wanted to join in on the new member hulabaloo! Name's Dan (29) from Ohio and have held PM Dawn as a group i admire since the first album. In fact i recall on road trips wishing to always "torture" my brother with my music(he enjoyed Metallica and what-all) The only bit of my music he enjoyedthat i would bring was the work of PM Dawn. At parties where u am allowed to speak about music i often time break into...."You know what you have to hear" Always got to toss out some props. (not like Carrot-Top---that would be bad and not well received)

I don't play anything except dabbling with my keyboard. I write poetry , like long walks in the...wait.....damn i'm off track. In any case i wanted to be a part of a forum which celebrated a group of artists and individuals such as these guys..

Plus to boot everyone seems to be pretty darn swell round these parts. In any case Nice to be here!

[syxxpm]

welcome aboard lum.... :bigthumb:

[Hero1]

welcome lum..whenever id play pm dawn around my brother he'd be like "ohh they did that reality track" ...

[Cozmo D]

Welcome aboard Lum! :)

[LumtheMad]

Thanks all! I am doing my random "wake up in the middle of the night" post. You don't get these too often (lucky for me) I suppose it's far better than the "wake up in the middle of the night knife stabbing problem.

In all fairness in regards to the former roadtrips with my brother ....i did have a stack of crap i'd bring with me. P.M. Dawn would even flip into my brother's home mix as well. I have long since left the oppressive reign my brother held(freeeeeedom!!!) ***still i make it point when i am making birthday mixes to toss a song of PM Dawn on there.

Well madness calls me back for more slumber. Thanks everyone for the hearty welcome! Nice to meet all of you.

[justafan]

nice to have you around lum!

[Be]

check that out...
we got two new cool people...
and got rid of 1 idiot...
we doin a..ok
well ALRIGHT....come on in and enjoy the party

b.

[Chief]

hehe...from cleveland...i bet ya this is the guy who had your ms pacman game from ebay Be. :) jk...welcome man

[Deity]

Welcome Lum! You seem to have your wits about ya, and I like your sense of humor already...yes, I definately think you'll fit in here just fine. :wiggle:

[LumtheMad]

Sense of humor? I was. being....Oh wait yes. Righto(wink wink) I'm am a regular ole riot here.

I'm not sure what i did with MS. Pacman other than rock the hell out at it. Normal Pacman i was awful at but the lady-Pac i wielded some serious majesty! Yes good ole grand (freakin miserable cold) Cleveland. All we can do in the winter time is play Ms Pacman honestly. Rufus Wainwright actually said at a concert i went to "Man i thought Canada got cold!"

In any case thanks for the warm welcome.

[syxxpm]

ms pacman is my sister :shock: :bowlaugh:

[onegalacticwino]

First of all, I rocked Ms. Pacman last night ... what a mouth!

And second, I salute another hetero Rufus fan! That boy rocks in a strange, tragic, soulful way -- went to his show a couple of years ago, and we all sat cross-legged, barefoot on the floor. Random, but young and perfect in a musically naive way. Loved it!

Oh, and Welcome ...

[LumtheMad]

Wasn't so sure if there were more than one hetero Rufus fan's out there. The man makes some mighty fan music and is a darn hoot to boot. Have been a fan of his and his old man's for a few years running now. ---which leads me to say man i'm tired---

Wait i got more....Actually not much more. One of the more interesting shows i was at was a Fleshtones concert. They were laying on the floor with us. It was a cool weird ---hey where'd my wallet go--- sort of night.

AS far as doing the Ms Pacman. My sincerest apologies. She had it coming tho...with the cute little bow and all. (see Dan on Court T.V as charges will be pending)

[Elizabeth]

I like him and I'm "hetero"... but I don't own any albums, so I don't know if I count. :rolleyes:

Elizabeth

[ChrisLDog]

Yup, I'm hetero and he "really pumps my nads." (Breakfast Club ref. anyone?) Anyways, he's really good, I'ma try and see him at the House of Blues on March 1st...

Oh, yeah and since no one else warned you, watch out for Chief!!!

[Be]

yeah ...i like rufus a lot...but i'm waiting on his songs to REALLY hit me...i do really enjoy the song "SHADOWS"...also that beatles cover he did last year...i forget the song...but he killed it..i enjoyed it emencly....i'm also very good friends with his sister martha...she's singing on J.S.S.


i love her...

b.

[Cozmo D]

Yeah, I love Rufus too...especially when Chaka's with 'em. :rolleyes: :P

[justafan]

my buddy just got back from Chi-town and seeing Rufus there...

I will have to ask him how the show was.

[ChrisLDog]

Originally posted by Be@Feb 27 2004, 12:33 AM
yeah ...i like rufus a lot...but i'm waiting on his songs to REALLY hit me...i do really enjoy the song "SHADOWS"...also that beatles cover he did last year...i forget the song...but he killed it..i enjoyed it emencly....i'm also very good friends with his sister martha...she's singing on J.S.S.


i love her...

b.
I think he covered "Across the Universe", and he did kill it. Funny thing, Fiona Apple covered that song recently too (a few years ago for the Pleasantville soundtrack) and her version was really good as well (maybe it's because that song just really kicks ass :bowdown: ). The video was amazing. She was singing in a 50s diner and people were trashing the place in really slo-mo, but she was singing normal speed.

[onegalacticwino]

I have to agree with you, Chris. I'm a fan, but I think he slaughtered that song and Cohen's "Halleluiah" -- Buckley's version is still my favorite. But his debut album, and the recent one are amazing. Not a huge fan of the middle one, except a song here and there -- especially a cover of his dad's "One Man Guy" ... which takes on a whole new meaning when he sings it.

My favorite "Across the Universe" is the stripped down one on the Anthology.

[LumtheMad]

I am quite fond of his last two albums. Cigarette's and chocolate milk has a fun yet dangerous flavor to it. The newest album i enjoy "Oh what a world" for it's bit of Bolero. I mean who doesn't like a bit of Bolero????

I have heard mixed results about his second album. I think on this last album tho he nailed it.

Also when he was in Cleveland he spoke about this crazy musical his aunt and mother(the McGarrigle sisters) made about Euclid Avenue and even sang a smidge of it....It was catchy!

[ChrisLDog]

Originally posted by onegalacticwino@Feb 27 2004, 08:39 AM
I have to agree with you, Chris. I'm a fan, but I think he slaughtered that song and Cohen's "Halleluiah" -- Buckley's version is still my favorite. But his debut album, and the recent one are amazing. Not a huge fan of the middle one, except a song here and there -- especially a cover of his dad's "One Man Guy" ... which takes on a whole new meaning when he sings it.

My favorite "Across the Universe" is the stripped down one on the Anthology.
Actually, I meant I liked it, but I did like Fiona's better. ;) I also liked his "Halleluiah", but I had never heard that song before I heard his version, so maybe I'm bias toward liking his, although Jeff Buckley's is undeniable.

I actually liked Rufus' Poses better than the first album (as a whole album). Want One is really good too, but I haven't been able to decide if I like it more than Poses.

They're all good tho' :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Champagne]

Y'all are making it harder and harder for a guy to be a lurker 'round these parts. I've been around for a long, long time even back to the beginning of the old pre-registration forum. I just don't generally enjoy posting in places like this because I express myself so poorly when I'm not in person that stuff I say usually gets misconstrued. Then again, I guess that means I'll fit in just fine around here, no? ;)

Believe me when I say that I think you are all a bunch of cool cats, so don't take it personally that I've just been back in the shadows all this time. I figured it was time to start (visibly) hanging around more, though, cuz I don't wanna get locked out of the rest of the forum of course!

Ermm...I guess this is where I talk about me? Oh right, I jumped into this thread because everyone was riding the Rufus train. I'll add another tally mark to the "straight but loves Rufus" category. I saw him in concert (solo) a day or two after he released "Want One", and then again (with his band) a few months later. I've got a couple of gay roommates and we like to argue over who likes Rufus more. :) And let me just say how ecstatic I am that Be is a fan of Martha's as I think she's mesmerizingly wonderful.

Sheesh, how do you introduce yourself to a forum full of people you respect and admire? I'm 23 and have loved PM Dawn since I first heard my brother playing Utopian when I was a kid. I maintain that Dearest Christian is one of the few perfect albums in existence and it's my all-time favorite album, right ahead of Jagged Little Pill. My order number for F*cked Music was in the single digits. Not relevant in the least, but I've still got the printout because I was so excited about it. I don't play any instruments or write any songs, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Ex...no wait, that joke was played out before it even started.

Artists I'm either currently listening to or listen to constantly are (in no particular order): PM Dawn, Alanis Morissette, Angie Aparo, Rufus Wainwright, Loudon Wainwright III, Annie Lennox, Garbage, Ben Folds, Beth Hart, Blessid Union of Souls, Tori Amos, The Flaming Lips, Tears for Fears, Fisher, Poe, ad nauseum.

I'm getting married in like three months, and "Perfect for You" is one of our wedding songs. My wife-to-be cried the first time I played it for her. So Be, let me thank you in advance for helping me score on my wedding night. ;)

And yeah, I suppose that's plenty enough for now. Geez, I feel like I'm in an AA meeting or something (not that I've been before, but this is how I imagine it). So is this the part where you all go, "Welcome, Champ. The first step is admitting that you're a Dawnaholic, and now that that's over with it's all downhill from here."?

[Hero1]

champagne i remember u man .. i even remember u from the old board...u were 1 of the few that held it down during that whole fucked music period... man i really hope u post and contribute..and congrats on the wedding

[Champagne]

Wow, good memory.

And yeah, I try to be a cool customer at all times. Especially then, though, when it felt like everyone around lost their minds over issues completely beyond Be's control, I felt it was important to stay level-headed. I was petrified that I was gonna go to my mailbox one day and, instead of pulling out F*cked Music, I was gonna have a letter that said something like "Sorry bruh yall will have to get your shit together first. Fukk all yall. And fukk you too. Here's your money back." Be's one of those guys I'd probably buy a CD of him singing the ABCs, so I sure didn't mind waiting as long as it took to get F*cked. Oh, and since I never did, let me just say to all y'all people who were complaining and worrying that you got ripped off--I told you it would be worth the wait. :)

There, that feels better. That's been pent up for years.

[LumtheMad]

WOw Champagne(pronounced SHAM-PANG-GEE) if i didn't know any better i'd say it was me who posted this with the music tastes. Nice of a fewllow lurker to come out as a straight Rufus fan and of course as P.M. Dawn fan as well. Good to meet you i'm sure we'll jabber at one another.

[justafan]

I always pronounce champagne as... sham-pag-nee, but that is just because I am an idiot and I like the ring.

Anyways, it was wonderful to read your posts. I wouldn't be so hard on yourself, you articulate yourself very well! Anyways, just thought I would say hi and keep posting...

Scott

[Elizabeth]

Hey Champagne!

I don't remember you right off the bat, but I'm sure it'll kick in after awhile. Your name is familiar. I just gotta say that you are such a sweetie and I'm glad you aren't lurking anymore. I like your attitude. You seem really nice.

And congrats on the wedding! What's her name? It seems this is really the year to get married... wow.

love
Elizabeth

[Champagne]

I tend to pronounce it as sham-pag-nee myself. And cologne is ko-log-nee.

But yeah, I'd imagine this would be the year for getting married. After all, pretty soon marriage won't be worth a plug nickel once they let (best redneck voice) "all 'em queers get hitched". Everyone's in a rush to get married before the "sanctity expiration date" runs out.

*sighs* Why are people so ignorant?

But to answer your question Elizabeth, her name is Sadrina. We've been together almost 7 years now, so we're getting married as soon as she graduates college this summer. :)

[Elizabeth]

I really don't want to open THIS "can of worms", but... are you against gay marriage?

Oooh... Sadrina. That's exotic. Is she Indian? I've known my fiancé for 7 years, too. We seem to have a bit in common, eh?

Congrats again!
Elizabeth

[Champagne]

Originally posted by Elizabeth@Mar 8 2004, 04:38 PM
I really don't want to open THIS "can of worms", but... are you against gay marriage?

Oh, heavens NO! 100% the opposite in fact. Sorry, thought my sarcasm came across there, but apparently not.

And no, she's not Indian, she's African American. Seven years for you, too, huh? Congrats! In this day and age it's pretty darned rare to find people who stay together past six months, much less past six years!

[Be]

SOME PEOPLE I KNOW...can be with someone for 6 years and then throw it all away like it ain't shit.....

fukkin LR
b. :madrant:

[Elizabeth]

Champagne... you are very cool. :bigthumb: Congrats to you and Sadrina again.

Be... oops. Sorry hon. I guess you can disregard my PM now, if you want to.

love
Elizabeth