violence in the NBA

[Be]

all i know is....wrong or right...he's gonna get the crap sued outta his ass...and that is a damn shame

[sdldawn]

hello no he wasnt right. it made me mad watching it.. felt like wooping his ass for doing that..

This wasnt a bottle (from my knowledge) that was thrown at him.. it was a cup of beer.. big FUCKING DEAL..

get over it.. as much as their getting paid.. shit.. throw it on me all day.

YES, the redneck fan shouldnt have done it.. but no'one got hurt from that damn cup..

bastard..



period.

[Be]

well...let a muhh fukk throw water on me at a concert....it's gonna be some damn furniture movin too

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by Be@Nov 21 2004, 12:29 AM
well...let a muhh fukk throw water on me at a concert....it's gonna be some damn furniture movin too
note to self: bring kentwood jug to the next pm concert







































:) just playin Be :kidding:

[Be]

again i say...it was only a foul...it happens all the time in basketball...i don't give a shizzznit how much you paid for a ticket...or how much you love detroit...if you disrespect some one like that..you had better make sure that they kant kik yo ass

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by Be@Nov 21 2004, 12:34 AM
again i say...it was only a foul...it happens all the time in basketball...i don't give a shizzznit how much you paid for a ticket...or how much you love detroit...if you disrespect some one like that..you had better make sure that they kant kik yo ass
hahah yep..


i think he kicked everyone's ass

[Be]

i wish i was ther..i would've stomped his ass too...as a matter of fact ....i'm goin to the rematch

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by Be@Nov 21 2004, 12:37 AM
i wish i was ther..i would've stomped his ass too...as a matter of fact ....i'm goin to the rematch
What the hell was he doing hittin everyone else though??


shit he slammed 4 or 5 people.. on and off court

[Chief]

in terms of Artest getting his ass sued.....damn..he shouldve had restraint and got the security guards...protect your money you dumbass...unless you just dont care and want all the legal battles..

[Be]

i feel you coz...but come on...there is a limit...and sometime...i say sometimes...someone needz a good old fashiond ass WHOOPIN'


Fo SHEEZY

[syxxpm]

be does his best mike tysons punchout impersination and starts knocking everybody out with "dynamite uppercuts"....and everyone in the stands all look like "little mac" to him :lolbonk:

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by Be@Nov 21 2004, 01:50 PM
i feel you coz...but come on...there is a limit...and sometime...i say sometimes...someone needz a good old fashiond ass WHOOPIN'


Fo SHEEZY
Did I say sumthin? :confused:


My thing is, if you're gonna whup somebody's ass, make sure you got the right somebody. He wasn't lokking in the crowd and had no idea who threw it. He ran and grabeed that guy and asked him if he did it, the guy said no, but he started punchin him out anyway. That shit is mad fukked up!

[Louis85]

Originally posted by Be@Nov 21 2004, 03:29 AM
well...let a muhh fukk throw water on me at a concert....it's gonna be some damn furniture movin too
:roll: :roll:

[justafan]

Originally posted by sdldawn@Nov 21 2004, 02:25 AM
hello no he wasnt right. it made me mad watching it.. felt like wooping his ass for doing that..

This wasnt a bottle (from my knowledge) that was thrown at him.. it was a cup of beer.. big FUCKING DEAL..

get over it.. as much as their getting paid.. shit.. throw it on me all day.

YES, the redneck fan shouldnt have done it.. but no'one got hurt from that damn cup..

bastard..



period.
I couldn't disagree with you more and I was FURIOUS watching the game. Artest started it with a foul and rough play overall, Wallace escalated it with a push that was totally uncalled for, Artest de-escalated it by remaining calm, Wallace threw a towl at artest keeping the fuel going and the fan threw the cup that hit artest in the face. Add that shit up, it wasn't artests fault. About going into the stands and whoopin a pussee's MF's a$$, I have NO problem with that under THOSE circumstances. The beer glass vs bottle has no bearing the this matter at all, a 1/2 full glass hit him right in the chin, the bell was wrung and it was GO TIME.

The suspensions are rediculous, a full season, that is way too much. Many fans better lose their rights to go to games because of this... Otherwise, in the long run, fans can figure if I get someone ejected for a year then an asswhoopin might be worth it... how pathetic would that be...

I am OUTRAGEOUSLY sick of listening to people that think differently than I do about this incident, because the soft ass media is handling it in their twisted way, and that is all I have been hearing lately because I am deeply into NBA and this fight, but I will shut up now. But I can bet there will be more from me later.

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by justafan+Nov 21 2004, 09:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (justafan @ Nov 21 2004, 09:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sdldawn@Nov 21 2004, 02:25 AM
hello no he wasnt right. it made me mad watching it.. felt like wooping his ass for doing that..

This wasnt a bottle (from my knowledge) that was thrown at him.. it was a cup of beer..* big FUCKING DEAL..

get over it.. as much as their getting paid.. shit.. throw it on me all day.

YES, the redneck fan shouldnt have done it.. but no'one got hurt from that damn cup..

bastard..



period.
I couldn't disagree with you more and I was FURIOUS watching the game. Artest started it with a foul and rough play overall, Wallace escalated it with a push that was totally uncalled for, Artest de-escalated it by remaining calm, Wallace threw a towl at artest keeping the fuel going and the fan threw the cup that hit artest in the face. Add that shit up, it wasn't artests fault. About going into the stands and whoopin a pussee's MF's a$$, I have NO problem with that under THOSE circumstances. The beer glass vs bottle has no bearing the this matter at all, a 1/2 full glass hit him right in the chin, the bell was wrung and it was GO TIME.

The suspensions are rediculous, a full season, that is way too much. Many fans better lose their rights to go to games because of this... Otherwise, in the long run, fans can figure if I get someone ejected for a year then an asswhoopin might be worth it... how pathetic would that be...

I am OUTRAGEOUSLY sick of listening to people that think differently than I do about this incident, because the soft ass media is handling it in their twisted way, and that is all I have been hearing lately because I am deeply into NBA and this fight, but I will shut up now. But I can bet there will be more from me later. [/b][/quote]
You have no problem with him going into the stands and just whuppin ANYBODY's ass? :confused:

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by justafan@Nov 21 2004, 06:45 PM

I am OUTRAGEOUSLY sick of listening to people that think differently than I do about this incident,
:roll: better get used to it.. THATS LIFE

[justafan]

Coz, from what I have heard, he knew who it was. I have no problem with him hitting the person who threw it at him, a person swinging at him or anyone on the court. But obviously not cheap shots... which I consider none of his puches or lunges to be.

Yeah sdl, there are lots of stupid people out there.

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by justafan@Nov 22 2004, 06:00 AM
Coz, from what I have heard, he knew who it was. I have no problem with him hitting the person who threw it at him, a person swinging at him or anyone on the court. But obviously not cheap shots... which I consider none of his puches or lunges to be.

Yeah sdl, there are lots of stupid people out there.
Look at the video. He's laying there on his back on the table, no way he can see somebody throw a drink from the area that guy was in. He's a fukkin pussy anyway, I notice he didn't want none of Wallace, yet he makes a bee line for this scared to death small ass kid in the stands. If I was there I would've fukked his ass up just on principle. :P

[Louis85]

Originally posted by Venus Flytrap+Nov 22 2004, 08:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Venus Flytrap @ Nov 22 2004, 08:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-justafan@Nov 22 2004, 06:00 AM
Coz, from what I have heard, he knew who it was. I have no problem with him hitting the person who threw it at him, a person swinging at him or anyone on the court. But obviously not cheap shots... which I consider none of his puches or lunges to be.

Yeah sdl, there are lots of stupid people out there.
Look at the video. He's laying there on his back on the table, no way he can see somebody throw a drink from the area that guy was in. He's a fukkin pussy anyway, I notice he didn't want none of Wallace, yet he makes a bee line for this scared to death small ass kid in the stands. If I was there I would've fukked his ass up just on principle. :P [/b][/quote]
Well look at the bright side, at least he has his rap career to fall back on. ;)

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by Louis85+Nov 22 2004, 09:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Louis85 @ Nov 22 2004, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Venus Flytrap@Nov 22 2004, 08:59 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-justafan@Nov 22 2004, 06:00 AM
Coz, from what I have heard, he knew who it was.* I have no problem with him hitting the person who threw it at him, a person swinging at him or anyone on the court.* But obviously not cheap shots... which I consider none of his puches or lunges to be.

Yeah sdl, there are lots of stupid people out there.
Look at the video. He's laying there on his back on the table, no way he can see somebody throw a drink from the area that guy was in. He's a fukkin pussy anyway, I notice he didn't want none of Wallace, yet he makes a bee line for this scared to death small ass kid in the stands. If I was there I would've fukked his ass up just on principle. :P
Well look at the bright side, at least he has his rap career to fall back on. ;) [/b][/quote]
Yeah, I can't wait for that! :roll:

Well, seems like the police have identified the fan who THEY think started the whole thing. Turns out it's NOT the guy Artest so COURAGEOUSLY beat the shit out of.

I hope the guy who's ass he beat takes his ass to the cleaners. :rofl:

[Brian221]

I posted this in another thread...but anyway.

If you're making millions of dollars playing a GAME for a living, you should take it seriously and be a PROFESSIONAL. If Artest had kept his head together, he could have pointed that fan out, have him ejected from the stadium and fined. By attacking whoever, he just made their day...they're probably going to be able to retire off the settlement they'll get. DAMN STUPID.

...then again, now artest has all the time he needs to release his album. :stupid:

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by SpeedoBot221@Nov 22 2004, 09:41 AM
I posted this in another thread...but anyway.

If you're making millions of dollars playing a GAME for a living, you should take it seriously and be a PROFESSIONAL. If Artest had kept his head together, he could have pointed that fan out, have him ejected from the stadium and fined. By attacking whoever, he just made their day...they're probably going to be able to retire off the settlement they'll get. DAMN STUPID.

...then again, now artest has all the time he needs to release his album. :stupid:
I LOVE it when people who are STUPID BULLIES get what's coming to them. :bigthumb:

[sdldawn]

and just think.. if i was there, and he stepped or accidently hit my sister or mom, or anybody i love.. not only would he be missing teeth.. but his neck would have been broken as well


THATS why you dont pull some stupid shit like that.. hurting people that arent meant to get hurt.. and anyone who disagrees, put yourself in that position.

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by sdldawn@Nov 22 2004, 01:46 PM
and just think.. if i was there, and he stepped or accidently hit my sister or mom, or anybody i love.. not only would he be missing teeth.. but his neck would have been broken as well


THATS why you dont pull some stupid shit like that.. hurting people that arent meant to get hurt.. and anyone who disagrees, put yourself in that position.
WORD!

He's just a pussy ass BULLY! The guy who PHYSICALLY HIT HIM IN THE FACE he wants no part of...I'm guessin because Ben Wallace would've whupped his ass...but a little beer splashes in his face and he goes charging into the stands...passing larger people...to go after some little guy a good 30 or more feet away? Who's fukkin terrified? The guy never even tried to defend himself, he just curls into the fetal position and gets whupped.

And this guy must have some kinda aim too..to throw a cup (NOT A GLASS, HE GOT HIS "BELL RUNG" WITH A CUP) of beer over 30 feet and hit a guy lying on a table right in the head...beer still in the cup...at the same elevation...this guy must be a master of physics. :rolleyes:

[Cozmo D]

I'm sorry, I have to correct myself. I just looked at the video again and that was well over 50 feet. :P

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by Cozymandias+Nov 22 2004, 11:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cozymandias @ Nov 22 2004, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sdldawn@Nov 22 2004, 01:46 PM
and just think.. if i was there, and he stepped or accidently hit my sister or mom, or anybody i love.. not only would he be missing teeth.. but his neck would have been broken as well


THATS why you dont pull some stupid shit like that.. hurting people that arent meant to get hurt.. and anyone who disagrees, put yourself in that position.
WORD!

He's just a pussy ass BULLY! The guy who PHYSICALLY HIT HIM IN THE FACE he wants no part of...I'm guessin because Ben Wallace would've whupped his ass...but a little beer splashes in his face and he goes charging into the stands...passing larger people...to go after some little guy a good 30 or more feet away? Who's fukkin terrified? The guy never even tried to defend himself, he just curls into the fetal position and gets whupped.

And this guy must have some kinda aim too..to throw a cup (NOT A GLASS, HE GOT HIS "BELL RUNG" WITH A CUP) of beer over 30 feet and hit a guy lying on a table right in the head...beer still in the cup...at the same elevation...this guy must be a master of physics. :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
good point

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by justafan@Nov 22 2004, 03:00 AM


Yeah sdl, there are lots of stupid people out there.
Listen, I am thinking in terms of how he handled it.

Do you have a child? do you have someone you deeply love? Consider them in the crossfire of an asshole who gets mad cause some beer got thrown at him.

If it was up to me.. his ass would have lost his job permanently. If we cant trust these players whom get paid millions to keep their cool if a fan does some stupid shit like throw a CUP of beer at him, then he shouldnt have the right to play.

I also hope his ass gets sued for all he's worth.

[justafan]

Originally posted by sdldawn@Nov 22 2004, 12:46 PM
and just think.. if i was there, and he stepped or accidently hit my sister or mom, or anybody i love.. not only would he be missing teeth.. but his neck would have been broken as well


doubt it

[justafan]

I also have to say that he is NOT A RAPPER. But he is a producer for Allures upcoming album. The difference between those two things is appreciable, especially to this crowd.

[The_Kay_Dee]

I would have taken that guy to the dirt too. He had NOTHING to do with the entire altercation. If you are man enough to throw sh8t at me you are man enough to face what come after PERIOD.
Don't start it unless you want it. Doesn't matter if it was a cup of holy water or a brick if you are throwin' with bad intentions, I'm throwin sum sh*t back!!!!!
I am with Ron, Steve and Jermaine on this one. If your teammates won't help you when you are down ( Or on top of a fan) WHO WILL?
Team is supposed to be family. For real. If any one of us were to get jumped, and another two or three of us were there, would you let that person get crowd whooped and Bully footed?
If so, remind me to NEVER hang with you. Sometimes ya gotta throw the rules out and throw a haymaker or 6 :slap:
I feel ya Be! Fans DO pay your salary, but that doesn't give them the right to throw sh*t at you. If you don't like my play, write a letter to the commisioner.
(Sorry I am soooo late, I haven't been at school.)

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by The_Kay_Dee@Nov 22 2004, 10:30 PM
I would have taken that guy to the dirt too. He had NOTHING to do with the entire altercation. If you are man enough to throw sh8t at me you are man enough to face what come after PERIOD.
Don't start it unless you want it. Doesn't matter if it was a cup of holy water or a brick if you are throwin' with bad intentions, I'm throwin sum sh*t back!!!!!
I am with Ron, Steve and Jermaine on this one. If your teammates won't help you when you are down ( Or on top of a fan) WHO WILL?
Team is supposed to be family. For real. If any one of us were to get jumped, and another two or three of us were there, would you let that person get crowd whooped and Bully footed?
If so, remind me to NEVER hang with you. Sometimes ya gotta throw the rules out and throw a haymaker or 6 :slap:
I feel ya Be! Fans DO pay your salary, but that doesn't give them the right to throw sh*t at you. If you don't like my play, write a letter to the commisioner.
(Sorry I am soooo late, I haven't been at school.)
Except he beat the wrong guy's ass!!! :bash: :banghead:

If he's so indignant at being hit with a drink, why wasn't he so indignant at being hit with a fist? :confused:

Because he's a pussy ass punk ass BITCH!!! :fawkdance:

[sdldawn]

Originally posted by Cozymandias+Nov 22 2004, 07:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cozymandias @ Nov 22 2004, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The_Kay_Dee@Nov 22 2004, 10:30 PM
I would have taken that guy to the dirt too. He had NOTHING to do with the entire altercation. If you are man enough to throw sh8t at me you are man enough to face what come after PERIOD.
Don't start it unless you want it. Doesn't matter if it was a cup of holy water or a brick if you are throwin' with bad intentions, I'm throwin sum sh*t back!!!!!
I am with Ron, Steve and Jermaine on this one. If your teammates won't help you when you are down ( Or on top of a fan) WHO WILL?
Team is supposed to be family. For real. If any one of us were to get jumped, and another two or three of us were there, would you let that person get crowd whooped and Bully footed?
If so, remind me to NEVER hang with you. Sometimes ya gotta throw the rules out and throw a haymaker or 6 :slap:
I feel ya Be! Fans DO pay your salary, but that doesn't give them the right to throw sh*t at you. If you don't like my play, write a letter to the commisioner.
(Sorry I am soooo late, I haven't been at school.)
Except he beat the wrong guy's ass!!! :bash: :banghead:

If he's so indignant at being hit with a drink, why wasn't he so indignant at being hit with a fist? :confused:

Because he's a pussy ass punk ass BITCH!!! :fawkdance: [/b][/quote]
Damn straight..


face it folks.. he handled it like a fuckin idiot


wait.. he is...

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by sdldawn+Nov 22 2004, 10:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sdldawn @ Nov 22 2004, 10:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Cozymandias@Nov 22 2004, 07:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-The_Kay_Dee@Nov 22 2004, 10:30 PM
I would have taken that guy to the dirt too. He had NOTHING to do with the entire altercation. If you are man enough to throw sh8t at me you are man enough to face what come after PERIOD.
Don't start it unless you want it. Doesn't matter if it was a cup of holy water or a brick if you are throwin' with bad intentions, I'm throwin sum sh*t back!!!!!
I am with Ron, Steve and Jermaine on this one. If your teammates won't help you when you are down ( Or on top of a fan) WHO WILL?
Team is supposed to be family. For real. If any one of us were to get jumped, and another two or three of us were there, would you let that person get crowd whooped and Bully footed?
If so, remind me to NEVER hang with you. Sometimes ya gotta throw the rules out and throw a haymaker or 6 :slap:
I feel ya Be! Fans DO pay your salary, but that doesn't give them the right to throw sh*t at you. If you don't like my play, write a letter to the commisioner.
(Sorry I am soooo late, I haven't been at school.)
Except he beat the wrong guy's ass!!! :bash: :banghead:

If he's so indignant at being hit with a drink, why wasn't he so indignant at being hit with a fist? :confused:

Because he's a pussy ass punk ass BITCH!!! :fawkdance:
Damn straight..


face it folks.. he handled it like a fuckin idiot


wait.. he is... [/b][/quote]
:roll:

[justafan]

the only punk ass bitch in the incident is the fan that threw the cup.

[eternals layre]

the way i see it is the fans are customers. if i was to do that to one of my customers i would be fired. i take alot more shit that that and with alot less pay. FIRE HIM
Wanting to take a month off to promote a band. he dosent love the game he dont need to be playing.

Shit please someone throw a beer on me hell throw 50. make sure its dark beer tho

[syxxpm]

Originally posted by Louis85+Nov 21 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Louis85 @ Nov 21 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Be@Nov 21 2004, 03:29 AM
well...let a muhh fukk throw water on me at a concert....it's gonna be some damn furniture movin too
:roll: :roll: [/b][/quote]
that could be a reality show...make be an interior decorator and see how he "redecorates" after you throw a beverage on him....he may even spackle some of your vertebrae....we could call the show...."about nothing..for the love of decorative design"


or ..the bliss hour...vibrations of beverage,unrestricted anger and projectile fotons! :bigthumb:

[Cozmo D]

Well, I HAVE had things thrown at me at shows, and never felt myself smart enough to figure out who threw it, or stupid enough to go charging into the unknown. Of course, I would venture that those who would frequent our shows were a bit different clientele wise than those who would frequent PM Dawn's. :)

Let me ask this of those of you who approved of Artest's attack. Suppose the guy who's ass he was beating had reached into his pocket, grabbed his keys, and stabbed Artest in the eyes. Would you all have said it was such a great move then, or is it only a great move when an innocent guy gets his ass beat for no reason at all? :rolleyes:

[Be]

FUNK THAT....i'm sick of the excuse that he makes million so some how he's suppose to just deal with it...if this game had been at the ruckuh that fan would 've left in a body bag....and to be honest with you even if he is an employee...since when are bosses allowed to curse out employees and throw beer at them....let the prosecuter throw the book at all of em

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by Be@Nov 23 2004, 07:01 PM
if this game had been at the ruckuh that fan would 've left in a body bag
And Artest would be looking at murder charges, just as he SHOULD be looking at assault charges now. ;)

[Terrick]

Originally posted by Cozymandias@Nov 23 2004, 05:05 PM
Suppose the guy who's ass he was beating had reached into his pocket, grabbed his keys, and stabbed Artest in the eyes.
aaaaahhhh...god, that sounds painful :shock:

[Harmeister]

Geez, Coz, you're taking this a tad bit too seriously aren't you?

Bygons, man, bygons.

[Harmeister]

but if I was Artest, I honestly don't know what I would do. It would depend on the day and how benevolent I was feeling. But after what had just happened in the game, and all things considered, what would you have done? You are telling me that after all that adrenaline has been screeming though your system because of a fight (or near fight) from only a few minutes before, and having played your heart out in a game, you would have simply let it bounce off of your head?

Don't get me wrong, he attacked the wrong guy and should be accountable for that, but I mean come on. Everything should work out in the end for the most part (I believe) Artest will have to pay for what he did, and the little guy will get rich. But the guy who started it all? He *ONLY* had his season tickets revoked. What kind of justice is that? If justice was served, he would have to pay like half of Artest's lost salary in compensation.

[sdldawn]

Didnt he even hit the wrong person?


thats even worse.. damn

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by Harmeister@Nov 23 2004, 09:37 PM
Geez, Coz, you're taking this a tad bit too seriously aren't you?

Bygons, man, bygons.
You see, no matter how many emoticons a person uses peeps always seem to assume that he's taking something seriously! :rolleyes:

I've been laffing the whole time in every post...this shit has nothing to do with me so why the fukk should I care, much less take it seriously? :confused:

Look peeps, I LIKE to argue...YES I LIKE IT! I would NEVER ban anybody here for it, and NEVER HAVE. I didn't even take the thing with SDL seriously, only my feelings were a little hurt. I don't think he took my jokes about his tastes seriously either, though it may have hurt his feelings a little as well. WE WERE BOTH HANDLING IT JUST FINE UNTIL YOU PANTYWAISTS INTERFERED! So STOP trying to interpret somebody's EMOTIONS through typed words on your computer screen!!! :madrant:

I mean...what bygones Harm? What da hell are you talkin about? :confused:

I got MAD LOVE for everybody here, from Hax to Syxx to Chief to Samedeep to SDL to Rumi. No fukkin argument is gonna change that...I don't work that way.

Dammit, if y'all can't handle a few strong or heated arguments WITH FRIENDS how da hell are you gonna manage in the real world? :ohnoes: :slap: :wavey:

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by Harmeister@Nov 23 2004, 09:42 PM
but if I was Artest, I honestly don't know what I would do. It would depend on the day and how benevolent I was feeling. But after what had just happened in the game, and all things considered, what would you have done? You are telling me that after all that adrenaline has been screeming though your system because of a fight (or near fight) from only a few minutes before, and having played your heart out in a game, you would have simply let it bounce off of your head?

Don't get me wrong, he attacked the wrong guy and should be accountable for that, but I mean come on. Everything should work out in the end for the most part (I believe) Artest will have to pay for what he did, and the little guy will get rich. But the guy who started it all? He *ONLY* had his season tickets revoked. What kind of justice is that? If justice was served, he would have to pay like half of Artest's lost salary in compensation.
He should be charged with a misdemeanor. That's what they call the "crime" of tossing a cup of beer on somebody. :rolleyes:

Hey, try this. You're a bartender. You get in an argument at the bar with some guy. The guy tosses his drink at you. You then commence to beat the shit out of him. Of, course, you're fired. Good luck taking the guy to court and suing him for half of your lost salary! :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh: :bowlaugh:

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by sdldawn@Nov 23 2004, 10:27 PM
Didnt he even hit the wrong person?


thats even worse.. damn
Been my point FROM THE BEGINNING!!! :bash: :banghead: :cheers:

[Harmeister]

Originally posted by Cozymandias+Nov 23 2004, 11:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cozymandias @ Nov 23 2004, 11:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Harmeister@Nov 23 2004, 09:37 PM
Bygons, man, bygons.
I mean...what bygones Harm? What da hell are you talkin about? :confused:
[/b][/quote]
I was referring more to not starting a flame war in here. But it seems you have your emotions already under control. :tinker: :madrant: :roll: :lolbonk: :lolbonk:

[Chief]

well from a personal perspective..i really wish the arena and both teams wouldve just spontaniously combusted....heres to dreaming though..:)

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by Harmeister+Nov 24 2004, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Harmeister @ Nov 24 2004, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Cozymandias@Nov 23 2004, 11:29 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Harmeister@Nov 23 2004, 09:37 PM
Bygons, man, bygons.
I mean...what bygones Harm? What da hell are you talkin about? :confused:

I was referring more to not starting a flame war in here. But it seems you have your emotions already under control. :tinker: :madrant: :roll: :lolbonk: :lolbonk: [/b][/quote]
Isn't a flame war when people attack each other personally? And the bygones thing, that assumes a grudge that somebody is holding from stuff that happened in the past. I sure don't see how either apply to this thread. :confused:

Jesus, am I gonna have to be a panzy and start apologizing in advance everytime I have something a little criticizing to say, like Chief? :dabutt:

[Etherspin]

Hell NO!!

[Harmeister]

Originally posted by Cozymandias+Nov 24 2004, 10:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cozymandias @ Nov 24 2004, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Harmeister@Nov 24 2004, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Cozymandias@Nov 23 2004, 11:29 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Harmeister@Nov 23 2004, 09:37 PM
Bygons, man, bygons.
I mean...what bygones Harm? What da hell are you talkin about? :confused:

I was referring more to not starting a flame war in here. But it seems you have your emotions already under control. :tinker: :madrant: :roll: :lolbonk: :lolbonk:
Isn't a flame war when people attack each other personally? And the bygones thing, that assumes a grudge that somebody is holding from stuff that happened in the past. I sure don't see how either apply to this thread. :confused:

Jesus, am I gonna have to be a panzy and start apologizing in advance everytime I have something a little criticizing to say, like Chief? :dabutt: [/b][/quote]
It's because I can make fun of you without fear of large retributions even if my posts aren't as totally off topic as mr. rednecks.

:blahblah: :blahblah: :kekeke:

[ChrisLDog]

Seriously, criminal charges all around. I don't care how much adrenaline is pumping through your veins, if you do something like Artes did, you have to realize the consequences of your actions. To me it looked like an ego thing. But who the f*ck am I?

[The_Kay_Dee]

Originally posted by justafan@Nov 23 2004, 12:14 AM
the only punk ass bitch in the incident is the fan that threw the cup.
Second that. The FAN should nefver have thrown the damn cup. Everyone is saying this crap about how Artest handled being hit with a cup. JUST because it is a cup does NOT mean that someone didn't deserve a good mollywhopping! There have been exchanges or WORDS HERE that would have come to serious fisticuffs had the parties involved been in the same room. Everyone here has been upset enough to throw some "shoulder shotguns" at 1 point in time.
Not to add the fact that this incident was IMMEDIATELY preceeded by an adrenaline and testosterone pumping shoving match.
Coz I bet you didn't take the same stance when it was Anthony Mason or Charles Oakley throwing "African soup bones" out there.
:fawkedup:
(or maybe you did.) :fawkdance:
the fact is EVERY ACTION HAS A REACTION. Fuck being professional.
If every person was professional there would be NO FOULS in any sport. Rivalries would be hyped as "general dislikes." or "Mutual miffs"
If a fan can throw shit I can too. If I am in my practice (after I graduate) and a patient gets all angry that another medical professional and I are not agreeing and throws his I.V. fliuds all over me, I WILL WHOOP HIS BED RIDDEN ASS! ( :kidding: )
No, remember WHO we are talking about. RON ARTEST.
In my opinion if the FAN who had NOTHING to do with the incident between Artest and Wallace had played the role of a FAN and booed then there would be NO thread here. He took matters into his hands and another guy paid the cost.
I think that the only FAIR thing to do is to put Him and Artest in a ring and see if the guys nuts are that big when he is face to face. PLEASE BELIEVE ME he would not throw a damn thing then.
The part about fighting the wrong guy..... Yeah that was MAJOR LEAGUE FUCKED UP. If he had gotten the right guy, who would have a different opinion?
:whogives: It's not even important! Ron is Ron I respect that.
He did what he did for his reasons. I just wish he had gotten the right dude, and Noone had jumped in.

[The_Kay_Dee]

Originally posted by sdldawn@Nov 22 2004, 12:46 PM
and just think.. if i was there, and he stepped or accidently hit my sister or mom, or anybody i love.. not only would he be missing teeth.. but his neck would have been broken as well


THATS why you dont pull some stupid shit like that.. hurting people that arent meant to get hurt.. and anyone who disagrees, put yourself in that position.
Done that.
Read the thread about how I got Fucked up by a guy with a BIG ASS ROCK! Because I was talking to a friend that happened to be his girl.

[The_Kay_Dee]

Originally posted by syxxpm+Nov 23 2004, 12:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (syxxpm @ Nov 23 2004, 12:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Louis85@Nov 21 2004, 06:07 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Be@Nov 21 2004, 03:29 AM
well...let a muhh fukk throw water on me at a concert....it's gonna be some damn furniture movin too
:roll: :roll:
that could be a reality show...make be an interior decorator and see how he "redecorates" after you throw a beverage on him....he may even spackle some of your vertebrae....we could call the show...."about nothing..for the love of decorative design"


or ..the bliss hour...vibrations of beverage,unrestricted anger and projectile fotons! :bigthumb: [/b][/quote]
Better yet call it " Forever the 96 stitches!" :slap:

[Cozmo D]

Originally posted by The_Kay_Dee@Nov 24 2004, 08:00 PM
If he had gotten the right guy, who would have a different opinion?
My opinion would have been much different. I would have still thought what he had done was stupid, but I would have drawn great satisfaction out of knowing that at least that asshole got his butt whupped for it, and at least Artest KNEW who he was going after and wasn't just lashing out indiscriminately. ;)

That's how I have ALWAYS been. Fukk who the team or person involved is. I believe in personal responsibillity, on ALL accounts. :)

[The_Kay_Dee]

Originally posted by Cozymandias+Nov 24 2004, 07:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cozymandias @ Nov 24 2004, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The_Kay_Dee@Nov 24 2004, 08:00 PM
If he had gotten the right guy, who would have a different opinion?
My opinion would have been much different. I would have still thought what he had done was stupid, but I would have drawn great satisfaction out of knowing that at least that asshole got his butt whupped for it, and at least Artest KNEW who he was going after and wasn't just lashing out indiscriminately. ;)

That's how I have ALWAYS been. Fukk who the team or person involved is. I believe in personal responsibillity, on ALL accounts. :) [/b][/quote]
Word I agree on that. Accountable for beating the wrong dude.
Fan should be accountable for WASTING PERFECTLY GOOD LIQUOR!!!

[LumtheMad]

Many Years later Lum replys....


Have to quote Malcolm X on all of this. "Looks like the chickens have come home to roost".


Artest ---for all the talent he has--- always puts himself in situations where he gets himself in trouble. Take it to another level that the fans of whatever city really dislike the guy. (Hell i remember him doing this crazy thing to Z in Cleveland...pushed Z on the head when he was on the ground so he could step over him...didn't push too light either)
The guy is a lightning rod of malice when it comes to fans. I understood when Vernon Maxwell went into the crowd....the dude that was taunting was talking abut his Stillborn child.....but this whole Artest thing is just Artest being the same damn nut he's always been.

[Cozmo D]

1st chicken comes home to roost!

Ha ha asshole!!! (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6629053/) :bigthumb: :bigthumb: :bigthumb:

[LumtheMad]

Excellent! I think we could somehow work a Mastercard "Priceless" commercial moment into all of this.....

[The_Kay_Dee]

This is truly justice...
Players suspended, fans banned....
ONLY IN AMERICA!!!!

[Cozmo D]

If you read the article you'll see that criminal charges are on the way. ;)

[BigRed82]

Justified charges as well. I think everybody should be charged with battery or something... even the fan who threw the beer. He was just asking for shit. I think that they (sports players) should put up with alot but that's a bit extreme.

[The_Kay_Dee]

CORRECT! Forget the profession, NOONE sholud have to put up with that type of harrassment.
People throwing sh*t on you. Why?
Charge them ALL.

[Cozmo D]

I have to say this, the police in this situation AIN'T PLAYIN'!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: