Whats new with everyone?

[Rumi_Philosophie]

Just curios to find out if anything new and exciting is taking place in peoples lives. Anyone having a baby? Going back to school? Love to hear about it.

[Chukwuka]

Hey Rumi!! In da chatroom!!

[Harmeister]

I am not having a baby, but my wife is due on November 19th. (Number 4 for those counting)

oh, and I'm going to India from May 9th to May 20th for work. That should be interesting

[Boogie]

Well I am hoping to sign a 3 year contract at my radio staion. That gives me job security for 3 years in a job where there is no job security... WOO HOO!!

[sdldawn]

college college college...

oh yeah had an artshow recently. I was one of the artist in the "10 most endangered buildings of 2005" in jackson ms. i was the first photographer to be in it. Morgan Freeman was there.

[Hero1]

Well I am hoping to sign a 3 year contract at my radio staion. That gives me job security for 3 years in a job where there is no job security... WOO HOO!!

hey boogie is your radio station playing will smith's switch?

[Chief]

hey boogie is your radio station playing will smith's switch?


that song sucks

[Boogie]

Naw... We are going to let KISS FM (top 40) have that one. The song is a good club song, but our audience wouldn't feel it. Just on the name Will Smith alone it looses alot of hip hop credibility.

[Chukwuka]

Yeah, he's no Icecube...

[Cozmo D]

Just on the name Will Smith alone it looses alot of hip hop credibility.
That's some BULLSHIT!!! Will Smith is a fukkin Hip-Hop PIONEER! Maybe it looses a lot of RAP credibillity! :p

[Boogie]

Coz you are right. That is what I meant to say... And personaly I am a Will Smith fan... Not so much recently but " He's the Dj I'm the Rapper " Defined a whole period of my life

[Chukwuka]

I thought rap'n is what he supposed to be doing in his most recent releases...

[Boogie]

Chuck you living where I live, you know how people look at Hip Hop/Rap in Texas. Will Smith is just a hard sell down here.

[Cozmo D]

Ahh...you've renewed my faith in you Boogie. :)

Chuk, Rap and Hip-Hop are NOT the same thing. All Hip-Hop is not Rap, and all Rap is not Hip-Hop. Most of today's Rap is nothing more than Urban Pop music. ;)

[Hero1]

yeah its just that i find it funny..that they say switch is pop and wont play it but they'll play 50 cents candy shop a million times.. you should check out will smiths new album is dope.. hes gotta track called "i wish i made that" which is very interesting about how black radio wont play any of his songs

[Chukwuka]

Ahh...you've renewed my faith in you Boogie. :)

Chuk, Rap and Hip-Hop are NOT the same thing. All Hip-Hop is not Rap, and all Rap is not Hip-Hop. Most of today's Rap is nothing more than Urban Pop music. ;)

This I know Coz... Yet... I think the actual music sounds are hip hop... The lyrical style would be classified as RAP... I feel that there is hard core, soft core, silly, comedy, forms of rap... with the kind of sounds the lyrics are over...

Cuz Big Willie doesn't sing...

ALthough I think RAP & Hip Hip are closely related!!!

[Cozmo D]

Nah, Hip-Hop music doesn't have a "style" or a "genre". When Hip-Hop was created there was no style of music.

You can go from "The Mexican" by Babe Ruth or "Walk This Way" by Aerosmith (ROCK) to "Just Begun" by Jimmy Castor and "Sex Machine" by James Brown (FUNK) to "Nautilus" and "Mardi Gras" by Bob James (JAZZ) to "Love Is The Message" by MFSB and "Good Times" by Chic (DISCO) to "Trans Europe Express" and "Numbers" by Kraftwerk (ELECTRONIC)...ALL of that shit is HIP-HOP!!!

Hip-Hop is beyond genre or style...it's a CULTURE! It's about freedom, creativity and originallity. It's about saying "FUKK THAT, I'ma do MY SHIT!" A TRUE Hip-Hop artist tries to find his own thing, set his own course, create his own sound. Back in the day the WORST thing you could do was not to steal another MC's rhymes, it was to bite another MC's STYLE!

In this Rap shit biting styles is the rule, which is why most of this shit sounds the same. Rappers today are in it for the money, not the love. Almost every one of them want a track that sounds like the last Kanye West shit, or Dr. Dre shit, or Lil Jon shit, and they want to rap like 50, or Luda, or Eminem. They allow the majors and Clear Channel to dictate their music to them, to the point that they sound almost interchangable.

That shit is NOT Hip-Hop...it's POP!

[Chief]

tell us how you really feel Coz

[syxxpm]

on a non sequitor i will tell you that today im going to a horror/anime/tv convention and hope to bump into traci lords/allison hannigan/tom savini/jake roberts/and a bunch of other obscure peeps in search of autographs bootlegs and japanese imports...oh and be ill tell traci you said ola....

and....i talked to chukwuka yesterday and the confirmation is official...he is super cool :)

well videogame soundtracks and dvds of 60s music shows await me..i shall see you all later...and frek if your reading this..its at the sheraton in east rutherford...me thinks a few blocks from you...

who knows...maybe ill find a bootleg newcleus dvd...tehehe....:)

[eternals layre]

AMEN COZ!!!!!! I second the motion

I know im not getting old todays music SUCKS

[Foxy11]

I have an internship this summer working closely with an attorney (actually going to court) so that will be exciting, and just getting ready to start my last year of law school.

[Wheeljak]

Rappers today are in it for the money, not the love.
I feel ya, Coz. And what's worse is that most don't even know how to do something constructive with the money they make.
Buy a Hummer today, live in it next year.

Straying from the subject of Hip-Hop and into the realm of Pop-- I remember the days when Pop was not necessarily a bad thing. Back when I was a kid, I used to love New Edition (in fact, I still do.) However, these days, I cringe when I hear a boy band.
Record companies remind me of pharmaceutical companies-- taking a living plant with healing qualities and isolating the plant's essence, in an attempt to magnify its benefits. The end product is a drug that has a long list of debilitating side effects that the whole plant won't cause.
The record companies started with a mission to synthesize New Edition, a natural, organic boy band. After several distillations, they introduced N*Sync, which despite its side effects of severe nausea, headaches and numbness in the extremities, sold millions due to aggressive, shrewd marketing.

[sdldawn]

I feel ya, Coz. And what's worse is that most don't even know how to do something constructive with the money they make.
Buy a Hummer today, live in it next year.

Straying from the subject of Hip-Hop and into the realm of Pop-- I remember the days when Pop was not necessarily a bad thing. Back when I was a kid, I used to love New Edition (in fact, I still do.) However, these days, I cringe when I hear a boy band.
Record companies remind me of pharmaceutical companies-- taking a living plant with healing qualities and isolating the plant's essence, in an attempt to magnify its benefits. The end product is a drug that has a long list of debilitating side effects that the whole plant won't cause.
The record companies started with a mission to synthesize New Edition, a natural, organic boy band. After several distillations, they introduced N*Sync, which despite its side effects of severe nausea, headaches and numbness in the extremities, sold millions due to aggressive, shrewd marketing.

"Rappers are in it for the money, not the love"


if that isnt the most obvoius thing about it all.. then i dont know what is..

in fact, i think just about everyone who knows hip hop today knows thats the only reason.. its a manufactured sound, and as long as people are eating it up.. there will be plenty more from the source.

[sdldawn]

The problem with the current state of music is the dimensions of the songs.

For example, just about everything that hits the charts are a one-dimensional song. They are only for first impressions. The context and quality of the songs in terms of developing over time decreases..

2nd and 3rd dimensional songs are very important to me Because I want to hear something that is gonna age with grace. These songs now only show a thin surface. this is directed toward all genre's of music.. If artists dont add those angles that make a song last, then you get what we are currently getting...

I dont need a nice drum beat to make me groove to it.. i dont need a single element to please me.. and if its not there. i dont disband it.. thats a foolish and non intelligent way to approach music..

[Cozmo D]

The problem with the current state of music is the dimensions of the songs.

For example, just about everything that hits the charts are a one-dimensional song. They are only for first impressions. The context and quality of the songs in terms of developing over time decreases..

2nd and 3rd dimensional songs are very important to me Because I want to hear something that is gonna age with grace. These songs now only show a thin surface. this is directed toward all genre's of music.. If artists dont add those angles that make a song last, then you get what we are currently getting...

I dont need a nice drum beat to make me groove to it.. i dont need a single element to please me.. and if its not there. i dont disband it.. thats a foolish and non intelligent way to approach music..
I wholeheartedly agree and have complained about it loudly for some time. It seems that the art of songwriting has died a slow and agonizing death...right along that of musicianship.

I will disagree about it applying to all genres of music though. Dance music is just that, music that's supposed to make you dance. If it doesn't have a good beat then it's a total waste of time. ;)

[Wheeljak]

The problem with the current state of music is the dimensions of the songs.

[QUOTE] For example, just about everything that hits the charts are a one-dimensional song. They are only for first impressions. The context and quality of the songs in terms of developing over time decreases..
2nd and 3rd dimensional songs are very important to me Because I want to hear something that is gonna age with grace.
Pardon me for saying so, but that is a stodgy thing to say. Some of the most timeless songs are very simple, even simplistic.
Example: Listen to "Fingertips" by Little Stevie Wonder; it's just him riffing on his harmonica, while backed by a repetitive groove from a stage band. Toward the end of the song, Stevie even quotes "Mary Had a Little Lamb," a song that is so simple, that it's usually the first song people learn on an instrument. However, as simple as "Fingertips" is, it grabs the listener, and won't let go.

[sdldawn]

"Pardon me for saying so, but that is a stodgy thing to say. Some of the most timeless songs are very simple, even simplistic.
Example: Listen to "Fingertips" by Little Stevie Wonder; it's just him riffing on his harmonica, while backed by a repetitive groove from a stage band. Toward the end of the song, Stevie even quotes "Mary Had a Little Lamb," a song that is so simple, that it's usually the first song people learn on an instrument. However, as simple as "Fingertips" is, it grabs the listener, and won't let go."


no no, we are on a different page.. Im not talking about simplicity.. simplistic songs CAN have 2 or 3 deminsional elements.. im talking about the songwriting and quality.. simpliticity has its importance too.. some of the best songs in the world are simplistic...

[sdldawn]

Coz said Quote:
"I will disagree about it applying to all genres of music though. Dance music is just that, music that's supposed to make you dance. If it doesn't have a good beat then it's a total waste of time. ;)"


Agreed, I shouldnt have said all genre's.. i wasnt even thinking about Dance

[Cozmo D]

Yeah, and you have to remember that MOST music is Dance music. ;)

[Chief]

except yours...:)

[Wheeljak]

Yeah, and you have to remember that MOST music is Dance music. ;)
except yours...:)
Yeah, I hear that Chief will only dance to Hilary Duff.
Well, maybe "dance" isn't the right word. It's more like doing clumsy pirouettes while crying.:D

[can]

wow... that would be interesting to watch....a little disturbing, but interesting nonetheless

[Chief]

*ponders wheeljaks future* :)