View Full Version : Help stop Anti-Gay influence on our Youth
Elizabeth
06-23-2002, 01:17 AM
The Message We NEED to send:
I am NOT disappointed by the pro-homosexual agenda Nickelodeon is OFFERING TO our children. Your attempt to OPEN their minds goes directly against INtolerance and SEGREGATION.
Your decision to teach about families, diversity, respect and tolerance while tying these values to the homosexual agenda clearly shows your intent.>>>>
The message AFA sends:
I am disappointed by the pro-homosexual agenda Nickelodeon is pushing at our children. Your attempt to bias their minds goes directly against the tolerance and diversity you say you advocate.
Your decision to teach about families, diversity, respect and tolerance while tying these values to the homosexual agenda clearly shows your intent.>>
PLEASE copy and paste positive message to NickJr@nickonline.com.
For more information see One Million Moms.com - Current issue being targeted
Help us stop close mindedness and bigotry in future generations. 1 Million people are writing to try to stop this... let's hope that 2 million can form against their protests for the sake of peace and love to someday thrive. Forward this to anyone who you know also Believes.
Cozmo D
06-23-2002, 09:11 PM
Seriously...I would have to view the shows in question before I could take a stand one way or the other on this one.
STANLEY C. TAYLOR
06-23-2002, 10:17 PM
tO TELL YOU THE TRUTH THE ANSWER LIES IN THE BIG MAN UPSTAIRS.
THAT'S RIGHT OUR CREATOR (WHAT EVER NAMES WE HAVE FOR HIM)
AFTER HAVING A LONG HEART TO HEART TALK WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. HIS ANSWERS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
'My views on homosexuality are..."
NUFF SAID.
Brian221
06-24-2002, 04:50 PM
I'll have to agree with Stanley C on this one...I'm not biased against anyone who is or isn't gay, but my own view have to point to the big guy upstairs too...
:donno:
...define sexual immorality, cause I know that's shunned for real.
Elizabeth
06-25-2002, 01:50 PM
Hey, all I know is that I wouldn't mind my children watching an educational show about gay families. I want my children to know that all different types of people and families exist, and that no one is weird or a freak for it.
I also know that for someone to be so AGAINST that idea even being on the air is extreme. The way I feel is this-- if you want your kids to be sheltered bigots, just don't turn on Nickelodeon. That's your bad.
Elizabeth
Cozmo D
06-25-2002, 02:13 PM
Have you seen the shows Elizabeth?
Elizabeth
06-25-2002, 02:38 PM
shush. shush damn you.
LOL
Okay, here I am looking ignorant. No, I have not seen the show. However, I did go to AFA's site, and read what THEY had to say about it. And being as "liberal" as I am, the only way I would be offended by the content of the show is if the parents of these children were subjecting them to horribly dysfunctional and inappropriate mess.... which Nick couldn't show anyway.
The point is, I don't have to see a show to agree or disagree with it's premise. Ask the members of AFA if they've seen the show. They haven't. They can only disagree because their super conservative leader tells them it's about gay people. The end.
Elizabeth
Cozmo D
06-25-2002, 05:05 PM
I think half the shows on TV are a horribly dyfunctional innappropiate mess, and being a father I have to at least cast a discretional eye on them before I turn my kid loose to feed on their crap.
So saying, I would never blindly reject a show because of gay content, but I would never blindly accept 1 either. Let me judge the show and decide for myself, and I'll let the lemmings choose sides and duke it out.
Chief
06-26-2002, 11:14 AM
ok..back too the post i was trying before i got busy....Coz..you took the words out of my mouth..Its called ENTERTAINMENT YOU FREAKS....
To those who would condemn a show for its sexuality morals...turn the fucking channel..No one forces you too watch it...get the fuck over it..
To those who base a show because of its sexual morality.....WRONG WRONG WRONG... First and foremost, If I were watching a show, my entertainment mind you, and it happened to be about Hetero or Homo...It better have some content to keep me entertained...It better have substance, and it better have good acting, or i will not watch....The whole crap because this character is Gay, or this character is a drug feen is not what im tuning in for....If Im wanting to learn more about things in general, I would turn to the Discovery channel or History channel, or whatever learning channel there is..Im sorry, but what pisses me off about society these days is the fact that if you dont accept a way or style of life...your bigoted. Thats a bunch of bullshit..I have no problems with others doing what they want with there life..im not influencing my life on them..They have the same choice I do to turn the damn channel, or to get away from the situation..Its not about being bigoted...although there are a lot out there on both sides, Im not denying that...but what gets me going is these activists that say because i choose not to let my children to watch these things, that im sheltering them....No, I will teach my children as much as I can to the extent of my knowledge...Then if they desire more information, I will help them research whatever they want to know..People tend to forget that television in most part is fictional entertainment. When Im watching TV, im taking myself away from the everyday drama of REAL LIFE. If you want my opinon...People are just fucking stupid...nuff said...:)
Liz...I luv ya, but man...forcing an issue just like the other side trying to stop it is just as bad...
Cozmo D
06-26-2002, 11:37 AM
Hear hear Chief! :thumup:
I remember all the hubub about Ellen. First, will she come out on the show or won't she, and everybody gettin all worked up about it on 1 side or the other...and all I could say was "Who gives a shit? It's a horrible show." It was horrible before they started that gay shit...completely un fukkin watchable. Now I'm supposed to watch it or I'm a homophobe? Or, I'm supposed to boycott it or I'm against family values? Fukk that, if it's good I'll watch it, if it sux I won't. Eventually, everybody got passed the gay issue and got around to realizing what I had said from the beginning...the show sucked ass...and it went away.
Elizabeth, here's a parental point of view for ya.
The show is on Nick, so it's for the entertainment of kids. Sex should not be involved AT ALL. I have never seen any sexual issues on those shows up until now, so if they are going to introduce sexual issues for the sole purpose of educating kids about homosexuals, then I would be against it, that is not Nick's place. Now if however, there will just incidentally be a child with 2 mommys or somethin and they make no big deal about it, that's just fine with me.
And still, in either case I would view the show and judge for myself.
EZ
Coz
syxxpm
06-28-2002, 01:42 PM
ill give you credit on that one coz ...queer or not ELLEN IS FUCKING BORING!!!!! SHE HAS THREE ONE LINERS AND CALLS IT A SHOW!
syxxpm
06-28-2002, 01:58 PM
ALSO ...SINCE I KNOW IM EVENTUALLY GONNA B E ASKED AN OPINION BEING "normal" AND ALL HERE ARE MY VIEWS IN A NUTSHELL"or for lesbians" CLAMSHELL.....
SEX SHOULDNT BE TAUGHT I THINK SEXUALITY IS J UST A NORMAL THING THAT SHOULD BE ADRRESSED FLIPPANTLY MY DREAM IS TO SEE TWO GAYS WALKING INTO AN ESTABLISHMENT WITHOUT STRAIGHTS BATTING A N EYE OR VICE VERSA FOR STRAIGHTS....THATS IT ...NOTHING ELSE..I DONT WANT EXTRA RIGHTS...I JUST THINK SEXUALITY SHOULD ONLY BE DEALT WITH WHEN A CHILD ASKS....PERIOD...AND THE PARENTS OR TEACHER SHOULD DISCUSS WHAT EVER THEY WANT TO ASK IN AN OPEN AND HONEST MANNER....
DONT FORGET ALL FORMS OF AFFECTION IN PUBLIC ARE SLIGHTLY INNAPROPRAITE....YOU THINK GAYS ARENT NAUSEATED AT TIMES BY THE SITE OF STRAIGHTS MAKING OUT? IM NOT ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO SHOW AFFECTION IN PUBLIC IM JUST TRYING TO PUT THE SHOE ON THE OTHER FOOT HERE.....
THE WORST OFFENDERS ARE THE ONES WHO HIDE BEHIND THERE RELIGION TO USE TO TORMENT THE HOMOSEXUAL POPULATION
THOSE WHO QOUTE SODDOM AND GOMMORAH AND TELL THAT "US SODDOMITES SHOULD BE CAST INTO THE ETERNAL FLAMES OF HELL CUZ JESUS SAID SO....THEY ARE THE ONES WHO INEVITABLY GET CAUGHT SODDOMIZING YOUNG BOYS IN PEWS IN CHURCHES AND ALSO HAVE A "BLOW HABIT" MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DAVID LEE ROTHS!
AS FOR THE REST OF THE POPULATION THEY SEEM TO BE COOL..TOLERANCE IS NOT TAUGHT...ITS LEARNED...BY DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU....SO MY FEELING IS JUST LIVE YOUR LIFE...IF YOUR UNCOMFTORABLE WITH SOMEONE ELSES SEXUALITY THAN MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH...I KNOW FAGS AND JAMS(SLANG FOR STRAIGHT) THAT ARE TOTAL ASSHOLES...WHICH COMES TO A BLUNT POINT..............
ASSHOLES COME IN MANY SHAPES SIZES OR COLORS....
DONT HATE A PERSON UNLESS HE SCREWS YOU OVER PERIOD!!!
JUST BECAUSE A PERSON IS A RACE SEXUALITY OR CREED DOESNT GUARENTEE ANYTHING......THEY COULD BE NICE THEY COULD BE AN ASSHOLE....ONLY JUDGE A PERSON BY HIS ACTIONS TOWARDS YOU...
THAT IS ALL ......ILL STOPPY STOP NOW ....MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SYXX "ANGRY YOUNG FILM TECH"PM
HAVE A NICE DAY
Louis85
06-28-2002, 03:44 PM
:rock:
Chief
06-29-2002, 11:08 AM
so what your saying syxx is that you dont want anymore hate crimes from a clown in a clock tower with a sniper rifle? :rofl:
syxxpm
06-29-2002, 02:14 PM
SPECIFICALLY THOSE WHO ADORN THEMSELVES WITH BULLET PROOF RUBBERNOSES WHO SHOOT PEOPLE TO THE TUNE OF BILLY JOELS "STILLETO" :weird: -SYXXPM
Elizabeth
06-29-2002, 09:49 PM
Chiefie-
Honestly, I didn't think of myself as "forcing an issue". I was just trying to do something small that mattered to me. I wouldn't have said a thing if I knew it would be met with as much opposition as it was... apparently I just chose the wrong forum to voice this. I sent the same thing to an entirely different group of friends of mine and was received quite well. Please forgive me, I did not know my audience, it seems.
Coz-
My pre-parental point of view is this: I will get to my kids before a prejudiced society will. Kids are easily influenced, and I don't really want to hear my kids walking around calling people faggots. It's never too early to educate your kids on sex. It can be done tastefully, anyway. Just me, personally. My bad.
Elizabeth
Chief
06-30-2002, 01:11 PM
nooooo liz..your opinions are HIGHLY WELCOME...your taking what i said the wrong way.... what i meant by the forcing the issue term was basically that i dont think a TV show should FORCE the issue of sexuality...Lets say im watching a show with my 4 year old...and 2 kids happen to run into a house to get some lemonade because its hot...and there are to men or 2 women as the parents...thats fine in my opinion, as long as there is good content to the programming..Like Coz and Syxx have stated..Ellens show flat out sucked, not because she was gay, but because the writing flat out sucked...Now what I do disagree with is the fact that the corporation that is pushing this is only doing it for the money..They ARE NOT DOING IT FOR educational purposes...they are airing the whole sexuality soley on ratings..to boost them and get more viewers.. And another point to bring up....just as a side bar...My kids have way too much else to learn right now than sex...I will be just like my parents when it comes to talking with them....(sit them down and let them watch a porn...) hehehe..for the love of God people im joking...No seriously, I will discuss with him at any age..Hell my 4 year old has already noticed his penis..my one year old is getting there...but for right now, its not the time for him to be confused about sexuality. Hell, he has problems with swimming. I hope i clarified a bit for you. I was not directing it at you personally. I was just hoping that you were open enough to see the other side of the issue dear..im sure you are....Love ya
Brian
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