hooo shitt new pm dawn track!!

[Hero1]

I'll be so good to you.. amazing!! love it..

theres a very funny interview with the guys in miami over here and they play the track:

http://binarystarmusic.blogspot.com/2007/06/starcast-special-presentation-starcast.html

Album Novermberish

[Twisted.Mellow]

Thanks Tim! Downloading the interview right now!

[Etherspin]

oh dear god.. get me that album !!

[Twisted.Mellow]

In the navy Doc? That explains SO MUCH. Like the whole strap on thing.

:D :D :D

[Harmeister]

time to whip out sound forge and do a little splicing....

:D

[Twisted.Mellow]

Hell yeah! Drop that shit Harm!

[Louis85]

I can't get it :(

[xtristessax]

i'm totally impressed. i can't wait!

[Etherspin]

it was weird.. the download dropped to 2k a sec after halfway.. but got it!

[DJ Detroit Butcher]

Computer Love and Holdin' Back the Years. Hmm.

[Cozmo D]

Computer Love and Holdin' Back the Years. Hmm.

Sounds like a clearance nightmare. :hoo:

[Hero1]

well what do you want BE to do spend 20,000 recording with session players.. or sample? maybe he could use more obscure samples and chop em up

[Twisted.Mellow]

Sounds like a clearance nightmare. :hoo:

Considering what Be's been through before, you'd think he would have that shit sorted before he went down the road...

[Twisted.Mellow]

well what do you want BE to do spend 20,000 recording with session players.. or sample? maybe he could use more obscure samples and chop em up

Using the well known samples may very well be a bridge into a bit more popularity... using lesser known samples could alienate new potential audiences. Maybe that's Be's angle?

[Hero1]

I'm just happy Be's recording to be honest.. If they signed to a label they could pay the sample clearance..if they put it out themselves maybe they could get away with it ..

[Twisted.Mellow]

I'm sure that what ever he's doing, he's wouldn't be crazy enough to do something to make him go through all that shit again. He's learned the hard way, he wouldn't make the same mistake twice.

Lookin' forward to the album Be!

[Cozmo D]

well what do you want BE to do spend 20,000 recording with session players.. or sample? maybe he could use more obscure samples and chop em up

I could cop that track all by my lonesome without using a single sample or outside musician. In fact, I would make it sound even better. It's the mentality of WANTING to use samples that Be just can't get around.

[Cozmo D]

Using the well known samples may very well be a bridge into a bit more popularity... using lesser known samples could alienate new potential audiences. Maybe that's Be's angle?

That doesn't make sense. You think that people would dislike a song because they don't recognize a sample?:think:

[Cozmo D]

I'm just happy Be's recording to be honest.. If they signed to a label they could pay the sample clearance..if they put it out themselves maybe they could get away with it ..

You can't get away with that shit anymore, and clearing those samples would probably be expensive as hell. "Holdin Back The Years" by itself would probably be a small fortune.

[Cozmo D]

I'm sure that what ever he's doing, he's wouldn't be crazy enough to do something to make him go through all that shit again. He's learned the hard way, he wouldn't make the same mistake twice.
The mistake is living by sampling. It just costs too much these days.

[Twisted.Mellow]

That doesn't make sense. You think that people would dislike a song because they don't recognize a sample?:think:

A known sample might draw them in to listen a bit closer to the song. Audiences attention spans are much shorter these days, due to to amount of stimulus surrounding them. The market is flooded, and you've got a very short time to grab someone's attention. This applies to both music and advertising these days.

Using a known sample is more likely to get someone to listen a bit longer, and then you've got a better chance of drawing them in.

This is the reason they use cartoon characters on the side of boring kid's snack foods. You've got to draw them in.

This may not be Be's angle, but it's a common one.

[Twisted.Mellow]

I could cop that track all by my lonesome without using a single sample or outside musician. In fact, I would make it sound even better. It's the mentality of WANTING to use samples that Be just can't get around.

I don't think it's a case of WANTING to use samples - isn't sampling what he's known for? That's his thing. It's his niche. His stand out thing.

What if Starbucks stopped selling coffee, and only sold carbonated drinks instead? Same thing.

[Cozmo D]

I don't think it's a case of WANTING to use samples - isn't sampling what he's known for? That's his thing. It's his niche. His stand out thing.

What if Starbucks stopped selling coffee, and only sold carbonated drinks instead? Same thing.
It is a case of his wanting to use them. I've preached to him about it forever.

His songs are what he's known for. The Dearest Christian album had no samples and neither did "I'd Die Without You".

The climate has changed, you either adapt or you lose. Sampling has become so expensive that it is prohibitive to everyone except those with the largest of budgets. Sooner or later he will have to face that reality. Until he does he will be making song after song that gets heard on the internet but never released. This may be another of them.

[Hero1]

Well Coz BE is an old skool cat.. he still makes music like he's on a big label. If you were looking at PM Dawn from a business standpoint. You would make a PM Dawn album using a couple of musicians..a very indie record that highlights BE's songwriting ability, different styles. No Sampling, No covers! You would put it out on Karmis and release it on iTunes so everyone around the world would have access to it, very easily. So producing the record would cost very little, and through word of mouth and performing you could make some money back. That doesn't seem to be what they are doing though.

[Twisted.Mellow]

His songs are what he's known for. The Dearest Christian album had no samples and neither did "I'd Die Without You".


His songs are what a number of people know him for, but a large cross section of people would know him more as a pioneer of the sample. I agree that avoiding samples might be a financial benefit to him, but this was his foundation.

Music for Carnivores used a sample. I'm not being a smartass there, just pointing out that on an album that appears entirely devoid of samples, he still chucked one in.


The climate has changed, you either adapt or you lose. Sampling has become so expensive that it is prohibitive to everyone except those with the largest of budgets. Sooner or later he will have to face that reality. Until he does he will be making song after song that gets heard on the internet but never released. This may be another of them.

I agree with you about adaption. Any act who keeps peddling the same shit year in, year out, will slowly fade into oblivion. As I said before, you've got very little opportunity these days to capture an imagination or a heart. What is the cost of sampling these days, btw? Any examples for me?

[Cozmo D]

Well Coz BE is an old skool cat.. he still makes music like he's on a big label. If you were looking at PM Dawn from a business standpoint. You would make a PM Dawn album using a couple of musicians..a very indie record that highlights BE's songwriting ability, different styles. No Sampling, No covers! You would put it out on Karmis and release it on iTunes so everyone around the world would have access to it, very easily. So producing the record would cost very little, and through word of mouth and performing you could make some money back. That doesn't seem to be what they are doing though.

EXACTLY!:cheers:

He's hooked back up with John Baker, so maybe he'll pick up the tab for the sampling. :idunno:

[Twisted.Mellow]

Well Coz BE is an old skool cat..
Isn't Coz an old skool cat too? :D Just playin' :D


You would make a PM Dawn album using a couple of musicians..a very indie record that highlights BE's songwriting ability, different styles. No Sampling, No covers!

That'd be Dearest Christian...


You would put it out on Karmis and release it on
iTunes so everyone around the world would have access to it, very easily.

Excellent idea.


So producing the record would cost very little, and through word of mouth and performing you could make some money back. That doesn't seem to be what they are doing though.

I'm sure that Be is trying to produce a record that costs very little to produce, given his financial position. And given his past experiences, would Be be crazy enough to keep producing songs he can't make any money off? I'm sure Be knows what he's doing. As far as sampling's concerned, he's learned the hard way at the school of hard f*ckin' knocks!

[Cozmo D]

His songs are what a number of people know him for, but a large cross section of people would know him more as a pioneer of the sample.
I totally disagree. Most people have no idea.


Music for Carnivores used a sample. I'm not being a smartass there, just pointing out that on an album that appears entirely devoid of samples, he still chucked one in.
I wouldn't know, was just going by what I was told. Or at least thought I was.


I agree with you about adaption. Any act who keeps peddling the same shit year in, year out, will slowly fade into oblivion. As I said before, you've got very little opportunity these days to capture an imagination or a heart. What is the cost of sampling these days, btw? Any examples for me?It varies greatly and totally depends on the rights owner. I believe that EMI charges a minimum of $5000.00 every time somebody samples my work. I would guess that Simply Red track would fetch at least $20,000.00. Why do you think that nobody has sampled it yet?

That's IF they give permission at all by the way...

[Cozmo D]

I'm sure that Be is trying to produce a record that costs very little to produce, given his financial position. And given his past experiences, would Be be crazy enough to keep producing songs he can't make any money off? I'm sure Be knows what he's doing. As far as sampling's concerned, he's learned the hard way at the school of hard f*ckin' knocks!
He don't know Be too well, do he...:haha:

[Twisted.Mellow]

I totally disagree. Most people have no idea.
So why is it that everytime I hear an interview with Be, the interviewer always asks him about his sampling, and says "you are well known as a pioneer of sampled music"?

To people in the industry, he is well known as a sampler (DJ's, musos, etc.)
To others, he's known as a dude who turns old stuff into new stuff and does a damn fine job of it, too. Anyone that I mention PM Dawn too (and then have to explain about Set Adrift), most say "Oh, yeah - he's that guy who sampled Spandaeu Ballet and Goerge Michael".

:idunno:

[Twisted.Mellow]

He don't know Be too well, do he...:haha:

Obviously in the past he hasn't been very careful as far as that stuff is concerned... I just hope he doesn't dig himself further into shit. I would hope that he's learned from the lessons.

Coz - are you/have you been involved with much sampling?

[Twisted.Mellow]

I believe that EMI charges a minimum of $5000.00 every time somebody samples my work.

And how much of that do you see? I'm willing to bet not much...

[Cozmo D]

So why is it that everytime I hear an interview with Be, the interviewer always asks him about his sampling, and says "you are well known as a pioneer of sampled music"?

To people in the industry, he is well known as a sampler (DJ's, musos, etc.)
To others, he's known as a dude who turns old stuff into new stuff and does a damn fine job of it, too. Anyone that I mention PM Dawn too (and then have to explain about Set Adrift), most say "Oh, yeah - he's that guy who sampled Spandaeu Ballet and Goerge Michael".

:idunno:

Because interviewers know their shit. The public does not.

[Cozmo D]

Obviously in the past he hasn't been very careful as far as that stuff is concerned... I just hope he doesn't dig himself further into shit. I would hope that he's learned from the lessons.

Coz - are you/have you been involved with much sampling?

I just got off the phone with Greg, after he sent me a track that makes this one sound like doodoo. Only problem is, it has a well known sample in it. I asked him if it was cleared, and he said yes. Turns out, the sample was cleared and used in a Backstreet Boys track that Be produced years ago. Be was under the (WILDLY mistaken) impression that since he cleared it once, he can use it again.

Can you hear me now?

[Cozmo D]

Obviously in the past he hasn't been very careful as far as that stuff is concerned... I just hope he doesn't dig himself further into shit. I would hope that he's learned from the lessons.

Coz - are you/have you been involved with much sampling?

Sigh...:rolleyes:

[Cozmo D]

And how much of that do you see? I'm willing to bet not much...

Half.

[Twisted.Mellow]

I just got off the phone with Greg, after he sent me a track that makes this one sound like doodoo. Only problem is, it has a well known sample in it. I asked him if it was cleared, and he said yes. Turns out, the sample was cleared and used in a Backstreet Boys track that Be produced years ago. Be was under the (WILDLY mistaken) impression that since he cleared it once, he can use it again.

Can you hear me now?

Right...

So Be really needs to is ask someone if what he's gonna do is kosher. Hope he starts doin' it.

Don't mean to argue and labor the points, just trying to get to the bottom of why Be isn't more careful.

[Twisted.Mellow]

Half.

That's mighty generous of them!

BTW - What would happen if someone wanted to sample a track that itself contains a sample? Would they have to clear both? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the whole issue.

[Mistress M]

I totally disagree. Most people have no idea.


I completely agree. The only reason I know that PM Dawn samples at all is because I'm on this forum. I don't have the ear to know if sampling has occurred.


I just got off the phone with Greg, after he sent me a track that makes this one sound like doodoo. Only problem is, it has a well known sample in it. I asked him if it was cleared, and he said yes. Turns out, the sample was cleared and used in a Backstreet Boys track that Be produced years ago. Be was under the (WILDLY mistaken) impression that since he cleared it once, he can use it again.

Can you hear me now?

I don't mean to be a bitch here (except that I am) but I'm already an album behind everyone else never having heard (or been given) F*cked Music. I will be pissed to all holy hell if this is yet another instance of an album I will never hear. :mad:

[Cozmo D]

Right...

So Be really needs to is ask someone if what he's gonna do is kosher. Hope he starts doin' it.
I hope so too. :hoo:

Don't mean to argue and labor the points, just trying to get to the bottom of why Be isn't more careful.
Be is an artist, not a businessman. He's never wrapped his head around the necessity of being both.

[Hero1]

You have to understand Be chase hahaha.. dude spent $30, 000 on "in My Dreamz" off fucked music.. just paying musicians.. now that doesn't make any sense if you are putting out a record independently.. dearest christian although it only used 3 samples cost over a $100, 000 to make.. you have to pay musicians etc he needs to get in2 the indie mindset but he cant because he loves his pm dawn sheen and he still makes records like its 1992 ha..Coz nailed it just then..he's an artist not a businessman..

[Cozmo D]

That's mighty generous of them!

Actually, it's standard.
BTW - What would happen if someone wanted to sample a track that itself contains a sample? Would they have to clear both? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the whole issue.Yep.

[Hero1]

Coz ring BE and tell him what needs to be done...we dont need another version of jim sullivan/pm dawn loves you that can't be released.. if you get to him now before theyve finished recording maybe you can save the project

[Cozmo D]

What do you think I was just yelling at Greg? Blue in the face I tell ya! :lol:

[Twisted.Mellow]

You have to understand Be chase hahaha.. dude spent $30, 000 on "in My Dreamz" off fucked music.. just paying musicians.. now that doesn't make any sense if you are putting out a record independently.. dearest christian although it only used 3 samples cost over a $100, 000 to make.. you have to pay musicians etc he needs to get in2 the indie mindset but he cant because he loves his pm dawn sheen and he still makes records like its 1992 ha..Coz nailed it just then..he's an artist not a businessman..

*whistles* Wow! 30k on a record you can't even sell. No wonder Be's all shitty about it. Wasn't there a sample on there that he couldn't clear? Isn't that the reason why it's not out there? So it would've cost him even more!

Surely Be could make one or two phone calls and find out that what he wants to do will cost him big.

C'mon Be. you're an intelligent dude. Take care in what you do! Just apply a little business to your mind and "Everything's Gonna Be Alright".

[Twisted.Mellow]

What do you think I was just yelling at Greg? Blue in the face I tell ya! :lol:

Did Doc shed any light on Be's stance on the sample thing? Have they got enuf material to put together an album without sample tracks?

Is there any point talking to Be about it, or are we :dhorse:

[Cozmo D]

Did Doc shed any light on Be's stance on the sample thing?Be doesn't have a stance, Be just does Be.


Have they got enuf material to put together an album without sample tracks?
I highly doubt it.

Is there any point talking to Be about it, or are we :dhorse:
I've been beating that sucker to a bloody stinkin' pulp for years now! :hoo:

[Twisted.Mellow]

So you're pretty sure Be hasn't got clearance for samples in these new tracks?

[Cozmo D]

I never said that. I know he doesn't have clearance for the one he sent me tonight though.

[Twisted.Mellow]

My bad...

I'm going to do a little research on Newcleus tomorrow... Don't know much about what you were/are a part of. Might understand where you're coming from better.

[Twisted.Mellow]

Doc in the Navy...

[Cozmo D]

My bad...

I'm going to do a little research on Newcleus tomorrow... Don't know much about what you were/are a part of. Might understand where you're coming from better.

You do know that I produced and released Be's first record though, right?

[Twisted.Mellow]

Yeah, knew that. Gotta find out the rest. Ether pointed me in the right direction. I'm sure I will have questions/comments for you tomorrow.

Peace.

[Bonkman]

...Turns out, the sample was cleared and used in a Backstreet Boys track that Be produced years ago. Be was under the (WILDLY mistaken) impression that since he cleared it once, he can use it again...

That would be "Backstreet Boys - If You Stay"? Wondered why Doc wanted that song... Matter of fact, I think Notorious B.I.G. used that same sample in one of his Junior Mafia songs, mid 90's.

I wouldn't think the record companies would allow grandfathered samples. They're too damn money greedy. Now, if it was for a songwriting credit, that I could understand.

[Cozmo D]

That's the one. Sounds damm good too.

[pmFan]

I don't mean to be a bitch here (except that I am) but I'm already an album behind everyone else never having heard (or been given) F*cked Music. I will be pissed to all holy hell if this is yet another instance of an album I will never hear. :mad:I thought you were supposed to get a copy at someones house like a year or more ago? Like at Coz's house when Be was coming over?

[Mistress M]

I thought you were supposed to get a copy at someones house like a year or more ago? Like at Coz's house when Be was coming over?

Maybe :shrug: never happened, though.

[eternals layre]

There is a lot of creative commons music out there.

http://marylandfilms.com/2007/06/other/using-creative-commons-music-why-not/

http://www.jamendo.com

[Etherspin]

Maybe :shrug: never happened, though.

find the most subtle reminder you can :)

[Hero1]

mistress you still want fucked music.. how good are you with a strap on? haha

[Twisted.Mellow]

OK, Coz. Done a little research on your good self, bit of help from the Oz Tim double act... still got a bit more research to do...

I'm ignorant of early hip hop/rap. I did note that the vocal styles on Jam On It were, IMO, similar to Sugarhill Gang "Rapper's Delight". Never heard it before now, but I quite like the track. Also notice that you apply quite a business head to your music - site is heavy with info and sales links. This should be something Be considers...

couple of questions (If ya don't mind):

I think I've seen posts about you guys still performing... How much of a crowd do you draw?

Do you still make a living from your past music (comfortable or otherwise)? If so, what's the main source of income - royalties, sales or performing?

Who have you performed/colaborated with?

What do you do now apart from performing? Production too?

Sorry 'bout the questions, just tryna see the big picture here.

[Hero1]

I did note that the vocal styles on Jam On It were, IMO, similar to Sugarhill Gang "Rapper's Delight".


:udunit:

[Twisted.Mellow]

What? What'd I do? I'm not putting them in the same league. They stole lyrics and shit. Just saying that the vocal sound is similar.

[Cozmo D]

I'm ignorant of early hip hop/rap. I did note that the vocal styles on Jam On It were, IMO, similar to Sugarhill Gang "Rapper's Delight". Never heard it before now, but I quite like the track. Also notice that you apply quite a business head to your music - site is heavy with info and sales links. This should be something Be considers...The only thing similar about our vocal styles is the feigned radio disc jockey voice that us '70s rappers would often employ. They sucked so bad we wouldn't even play that record in the streets. I don't think I even owned a copy until the '90s.

We got totally ripped off for ALL of our royalties, which made me realize that I had better tighten up on the business tip. We produced our first independent record in '86 and started our first record company in '87. From the very moment I met Be (he was Prince then) in about '88 I was trying to get him to at least try and understand the business side of things.


I think I've seen posts about you guys still performing... How much of a crowd do you draw?
Of course that all depends. Last year and the year before we were on a tour that averaged about 8,000 people per show. The club we performed at in Switzerland pulled at least 1,000 people, just to see us and Goldilocks.


Do you still make a living from your past music (comfortable or otherwise)? If so, what's the main source of income - royalties, sales or performing?
Almost all of the money I'm making these days is from the old Newcleus stuff, the huge majority from "Jam On It". I would say sales, then performing, then royalties.


Who have you performed/colaborated with?

The list of who we have performed with is crazy long, from Cameo to RunDMC to Jeffrey Osborne to Rick James. I have never done much collaborating though.


What do you do now apart from performing? Production too?
Most of what I do is production, we only recently (2000 or so) started performing again. I am first and foremost a songwriter and producer.


Sorry 'bout the questions, just tryna see the big picture here.
No problemo. :tiphat:

[Twisted.Mellow]

They sucked so bad we wouldn't even play that record in the streets.

In that case, hope I didn't offend :D


We got totally ripped off for ALL of our royalties, which made me realize that I had better tighten up on the business tip.

This shit still happens today, even worse in some cases.


Almost all of the money I'm making these days is from the old Newcleus stuff, the huge majority from "Jam On It". I would say sales, then performing, then royalties.

D'ya think Be is making the same kind of cash off Set Adrift?


Most of what I do is production, we only recently (2000 or so) started performing again. I am first and foremost a songwriter and producer.

Two more:
1. Who have you done production work for, apart from Be - and, have you done any more production for him since the first?

2. Who were your early influences?

[Mistress M]

mistress you still want fucked music.. how good are you with a strap on? haha

Well, I've been practicing on your mom...

[Cozmo D]

1. Who have you done production work for, apart from Be - and, have you done any more production for him since the first?Mostly my own artists, none of which you've probably ever heard of. Outside of Be that is.:haha:


2. Who were your early influences?
George Clinton, Carlos Santana, The Beatles, Kraftwerk, Hugh Masakela, Jean Michel Jarre, Isaac Hayes, lots and lots more.

[Cozmo D]

BTW, due to "Set Adrift" having so many publishing entanglements I'm willing to bet that Be makes more money off of "I'd Die Without You", which is all his. I know that his ASCAP checks are probably twice as big as mine.

[Twisted.Mellow]

BTW, due to "Set Adrift" having so many publishing entanglements I'm willing to bet that Be makes more money off of "I'd Die Without You", which is all his

Now that's a damn good point! :)


I know that his ASCAP checks are probably twice as big as mine.

But you'd be alot more careful about samples, so you'd save a bit on litigation? :D

PS. Beatles & George Clinton are very big influences for me, too. P-Funk is virtually unavoidable if you're a bass player::cool:

[Hero1]

Well, I've been practicing on your mom...

but my mum doesn't have fucked music....

[Mistress M]

but my mum doesn't have fucked music....

Naw...she's just fucked. :panic:

[Hero1]

oh thats how you get down is it :squint:

[Twisted.Mellow]

oh thats how you get down is it :squint:

Ding Ding! Round 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papxbWu3KUM#

[Etherspin]

Mostly my own artists, none of which you've probably ever heard of. Outside of Be that is.:haha:


George Clinton, Carlos Santana, The Beatles, Kraftwerk, Hugh Masakela, Jean Michel Jarre, Isaac Hayes, lots and lots more.

jarre!?!? coolness

[Cozmo D]

But you'd be alot more careful about samples, so you'd save a bit on litigation? :D
He just had more and bigger hits than I did. :idunno:

I've done my share of sampling, but it was back in a time when people regularly got away with it. I still use a lot of samples when I do Rap, but I only use the royalty free kind. ;)

[eternals layre]

He just had more and bigger hits than I did. :idunno:

I still use a lot of samples when I do Rap, but I only use the royalty free kind. ;)


Theres so much free as in beer or something close. I have heard a few songs made entirely off samples in public domain or CC that where pretty good. The movement heeds a hero.

Guess Coz you are the nomination.

[Twisted.Mellow]

I still use a lot of samples when I do Rap, but I only use the royalty free kind. ;)

Now that'd save some moola!

Is there some kind of listing for what's in the public domain?

[Cozmo D]

Eternals just gave you some links a couple of posts ago. Me, I tend to use a lot of sample CDs.

[Twisted.Mellow]

Eternals just gave you some links a couple of posts ago. Me, I tend to use a lot of sample CDs.

Tryed them the other day and could not access them (australia's international internet access was cut off at the time apparently...) - forgot to go back... will check them out today.

Ether sent me the freestyle you did with King Just - I dug that shit!
If I'm ever in the States, I'd see your show for sure.

[Hero1]

we need to get coz out to australia! :rolleyes:

[Twisted.Mellow]

Hell yeah! C'mon down Coz... the weather's fine and so are the ladies :D

[Etherspin]

tried that .. any more ideas for getting coz out here - lemme know !! im in !

[Hero1]

we need to find that promoter who brought out grandmaster flash..and kurtis blow.. a lot of old school shows never get up out here tho :(

[Hero1]

To get back on topic I love the computer love sample and love this track.. I'm surprised hardly anyone has commented on it :think:

[Twisted.Mellow]

Don't get me wrong, man. I love the track. But now Coz has gone and got my panties in a bunch about samples, and wondering if Be's cleared this shit and if we can look forward to it on the album.

[pmFan]

Ding Ding! Round 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papxbWu3KUM#
HAHAHA!!! Did you see the MoBoogie Loft acoustic version? Watch him try to keep up with the words (which you can understand all of now)! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw26pp_jqZA

[pmFan]

jarre!?!? coolnessThat surprised me, too! I loved listening to that back in college (late nineties). Really cool! :clap:

[Twisted.Mellow]

HAHAHA!!! Did you see the MoBoogie Loft acoustic version? Watch him try to keep up with the words (which you can understand all of now)! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw26pp_jqZA

Have the album. This is Fishbone, and they rock. Should try following him live on stage!

[pmFan]

Have the album. This is Fishbone, and they rock. Should try following him live on stage!I have never hear them before (that I know of) - that was funny!

[pmFan]

So, is anyone else (besides me) going to cut that interview up into tracks and burn it to a CD? I thought it was really cool!

[Twisted.Mellow]

Look for another song on youtube by Fishbone called "Party at Ground Zero" - this is their most typical song...

[Twisted.Mellow]

So, is anyone else (besides me) going to cut that interview up into tracks and burn it to a CD? I thought it was really cool!

May very well do... when I've got the time :D

[DJ Detroit Butcher]

Look for another song on youtube by Fishbone called "Party at Ground Zero" - this is their most typical song...
:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

[pmFan]

Look for another song on youtube by Fishbone called "Party at Ground Zero" - this is their most typical song...


:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:
Totally Agree!!! I love this type of music!!! :clap: :rock: :clap: :rock: :clap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrONIb9gQ-k

[Twisted.Mellow]

A week and a half after seeing Be & Giggles in Melbourne, I saw Fishbone live in the same city! BEST F*CKING WEEKS OF MY LIFE!!! Got autographs and pics with both bands, but PM Dawn outshined Fishbone 10-1 for pure happiness! Fishbone have alot of pent up anger at the music industry over being largly ignored... sounds familiar eh?

'Cept, well, at least when I met him - Be manages to rise above this. Be I think has so much more to be angry and upset about in life than Angelo Moore (lead singer in Fishbone, quite an angry man (but still has fun)), but Be, whatever faith carries him, seems to rise above it.

Be and Giggles were a pair of the nicest dudes I've ever met. If religion is what carries Be through the tough times, then it's working for him. I personally do not believe in any "religion", instead I choose to live by the "everything's gonna turn out alright" mantra. But whatever makes you happy!

Even though Fishbone are at times some angry mofos, they can still turn out a good party tune... In fact, for those interested, go to "http://www.myspace.com/fishboneisredhot" and listen to "Party With Saddam".

[sdldawn]

okay, the song sounded great.

i hope something gets released in the near future..